Comments for Labourhome http://labourhome.org Building the nation we want Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Anonymous http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-520 Anonymous Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:42:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-520 The problem is we are hearing the Greek government may not call an election to stop the people voting for s0mebody like the Commies. They are talking about a government of all parties. here of course you get people marching and waving flags, when we do get annoyed of course as it happened in my town people get shot The problem is we are hearing the Greek government may not call an election to stop the people voting for s0mebody like the Commies.

They are talking about a government of all parties.

here of course you get people marching and waving flags, when we do get annoyed of course as it happened in my town people get shot

]]> Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Swatantra http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-519 Swatantra Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:52:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-519 You can only push the people so far. Look at Greece,where a technocratic Govt has imposed massive cuts and the Unions and the workers are not going to take it any more. Its unfair because we all know the Greeks have been living beynd their means for years and need a it of self discipline and regulation; they obviouslyy can't do it themselves so the Technocrats and IMF have don it for them. Greece could well fall to another coup by the military, stepping in where bickering politicians fear to tread. I've often thought that we could do with a technocratic Govt here as well just to sort things out.  I'd agree that the public have lost faith in all politicians; but the trouble with the Military is that  they don't ave any imagination; they're so used to following orders. You can only push the people so far. Look at Greece,where a technocratic Govt has imposed massive cuts and the Unions and the workers are not going to take it any more. Its unfair because we all know the Greeks have been living beynd their means for years and need a it of self discipline and regulation; they obviouslyy can’t do it themselves so the Technocrats and IMF have don it for them. Greece could well fall to another coup by the military, stepping in where bickering politicians fear to tread.
I’ve often thought that we could do with a technocratic Govt here as well just to sort things out.  I’d agree that the public have lost faith in all politicians; but the trouble with the Military is that  they don’t ave any imagination; they’re so used to following orders.

]]> Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Anonymous http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-518 Anonymous Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:59:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-518 I think your wrong the Tories know they have so much scope because labour is really so unelectable at the moment, they are moving between new labour, labour, and shall we take over from the Tories.  I suspect the public will give the Tories another term or they will decide another hung government, I suspect the Tories may even get a minority government with Labours millions staying at home. never have I seen Unions or Union people or even the public accept so many cuts, without saying anything, they are not marching for the NHS which once upon a time you say cuts and NHS in the same breath millions would be on the streets. I think since the expenses scandal the public are sick and tired of hearing about politics., I think your wrong the Tories know they have so much scope because labour is really so unelectable at the moment, they are moving between new labour, labour, and shall we take over from the Tories.

 I suspect the public will give the Tories another term or they will decide another hung government, I suspect the Tories may even get a minority government with Labours millions staying at home.

never have I seen Unions or Union people or even the public accept so many cuts, without saying anything, they are not marching for the NHS which once upon a time you say cuts and NHS in the same breath millions would be on the streets.

I think since the expenses scandal the public are sick and tired of hearing about politics.,

]]> Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Swatantra http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-517 Swatantra Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:22:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-517 I gave a much fuller comment on 'Labour Uncut' which takes in the very points you've made. The Coalition may well come unstuck if Nick puts his foot down on Lansleys  'reforms' and says: No.  Yet another U-Turn for the Coalition. Honestly, I've lost count.  I gave a much fuller comment on ‘Labour Uncut’ which takes in the very points you’ve made.
The Coalition may well come unstuck if Nick puts his foot down on Lansleys  ’reforms’ and says: No. 
Yet another U-Turn for the Coalition. Honestly, I’ve lost count. 

]]> Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Anonymous http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-516 Anonymous Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:36:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-516  Interesting maths; 1945 to 1951 = 5 years. Other than that sarky comment you are right that governments should govern as if it their only term. Tories in 1979-83 made radical changes and courted deep unpopularity to do what they thought was essential. Blair sat on his hands for his first term, spending 4 years running for re-election in 2001. After that events took over and the time for radicalism was past. So little was achieved that when Blair left a Radio 4 discussion seriously could only say his greatest achievement was free museum admission. Nice but hardly overthrowing the post war settlement. To its credit the coalition is running forward with many radical policies. They govern as if its their only term, largely because it probably is (Tory majority, Labour majority or Lib-Lab coalition are all likelier outcomes).  Interesting maths; 1945 to 1951 = 5 years.

Other than that sarky comment you are right that governments should govern as if it their only term. Tories in 1979-83 made radical changes and courted deep unpopularity to do what they thought was essential.

Blair sat on his hands for his first term, spending 4 years running for re-election in 2001. After that events took over and the time for radicalism was past. So little was achieved that when Blair left a Radio 4 discussion seriously could only say his greatest achievement was free museum admission. Nice but hardly overthrowing the post war settlement.

To its credit the coalition is running forward with many radical policies. They govern as if its their only term, largely because it probably is (Tory majority, Labour majority or Lib-Lab coalition are all likelier outcomes).

]]> Comment on Can Ed Miliband learn from Obama by Swatantra http://labourhome.org/2012/01/can-ed-miliband-learn-from-obama/#comment-515 Swatantra Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:20:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=301#comment-515 The trouble with most PMs and Presidents is that they are always looking to the 2nd term and reelection. When they should really be thinking about doing it all in 4 years or 5 years, and sod the 2nd term. Obama had everything the Senate and Congess and the people behind him and yet he delayed introducing his Welfare Reforms. The advice is just get on with it; bring about the change, and forget about the 2nd term, and bow out.  Who knows the measures you've introduced may well prove successful and you've got your 2nd term. Labour Leaders need to learn that lesson. the 45 Govt changed Britain and it was done in 5 years. The trouble with most PMs and Presidents is that they are always looking to the 2nd term and reelection. When they should really be thinking about doing it all in 4 years or 5 years, and sod the 2nd term.
Obama had everything the Senate and Congess and the people behind him and yet he delayed introducing his Welfare Reforms.
The advice is just get on with it; bring about the change, and forget about the 2nd term, and bow out.  Who knows the measures you’ve introduced may well prove successful and you’ve got your 2nd term.
Labour Leaders need to learn that lesson. the 45 Govt changed Britain and it was done in 5 years.

]]> Comment on Is James Murdoch on the lam? by Anonymous http://labourhome.org/2012/02/is-james-murdoch-on-the-lam/#comment-514 Anonymous Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:12:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=336#comment-514 yes that true, born and bred. yes that true, born and bred.

]]> Comment on Is James Murdoch on the lam? by Swatantra http://labourhome.org/2012/02/is-james-murdoch-on-the-lam/#comment-513 Swatantra Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:01:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=336#comment-513 '... though cowards flinch and traitors sneer ...' ‘… though cowards flinch and traitors sneer …’

]]> Comment on Is James Murdoch on the lam? by Anonymous http://labourhome.org/2012/02/is-james-murdoch-on-the-lam/#comment-512 Anonymous Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:14:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=336#comment-512  yes labour can be out of power for a life time.  yes labour can be out of power for a life time.

]]> Comment on Is James Murdoch on the lam? by Swatantra http://labourhome.org/2012/02/is-james-murdoch-on-the-lam/#comment-511 Swatantra Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:56:00 +0000 http://labourhome.org/?p=336#comment-511 Stick with it Alex. Things will only get better. I can assure you. Stick with it Alex. Things will only get better. I can assure you.

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